http://kotaku.com/gaming/games/the-endless-debate-are-games-art-245014.php

i love when urls became representative of their content…

anyway, hey, some of these comments are pretty depressing. i couldn’t even figure out how to comment on the list. but it also reminds me of talking to my game designer friends – they still can’t separate art in game from art as game. I guess its part of the terminology of the working world; there’s a specific role for the “Artist.”

Anyway , my point is , I don’t have one. But sometimes I see people’s thoughts and I get really intimidated, like , how do you talk to these people?

this is a post:

A game inherently has a defined set of rules, defined conditions for gains/losses. and ultimately a defined outcome. That is not art.

this would be my argument:

A game inherently has a defined set of rules, defined conditions for gains/losses. and ultimately a defined outcome. That is art.

What’s going on?